On Tuesday, Caitlyn Jenner‘s long-awaited interview on The Ellen DeGeneres Show (pre-taped, natch) aired, and a lot of people were left pretty confused. We know Caitlyn’s been doing the rounds in the press, acting as a spokesperson for the transgender community and trying to bring trans issues to light, but things got dodgy when Ellen brought up the topic of gay marriage.
For those who don’t know much about Caitlyn, she has always been a conservative Republican, and to be honest, none of that has really changed. She’s still pretty anti-poor people (which… we won’t even get into that) and also isn’t all that convinced about gay marriage, but clearly feels pressured into supporting it due to being trans. Caitlyn told Ellen that she’s a “traditionalist” (lol) but added, “I don’t ever want to stand in front of anybody’s happiness. That’s not my job. If that word ‘marriage’ is really, really that important to you, I can go with it.” Ellen then pointed out that Caitlyn seemed rather half-hearted with her comments, to which Caitlyn responded, “It’s pretty much going to be the law of the land. So I feel like I’m okay with it.”
Wow, thanks for the support. Ellen then hit up Howard Stern’s XFM radio show on Wednesday, where she basically said Caitlyn’s attitude is bullshit but that she doesn’t seem to get the contradictory nature of her opinions.
“[She] still has a judgment about gay marriage… And I said, ‘You’re wanting people to understand and accept you. This is like, really confusing to people. And you still have a judgment about gay people and marriage.’”
Stern thought it was “crazy,” because “here’s a person on TV crying, ‘I want to be myself. I want to be genuine. I don’t want people to ridicule me,’ and then says in the same breath, ‘Gee, gay marriage, I don’t get it.’” He expressed that the disconnect for Jenner was “remarkable.”
DeGeneres then told Stern that, unlike her other guests, Jenner did not dance with her. She joked, “Maybe she didn’t want to dance with me because I’m a lesbian.” DeGeneres also said of the conservative Jenner, “I think a lot of Republicans are wishing she wasn’t Republican.”
I don’t think everyone has to support every cause, but I do find it really ridiculous that Caitlyn is still so clueless. It’s something I’ve felt for a while now – we’ve watched every episode of I Am Cait, and while it’s fascinating to see her go through this process, it’s also really sad, because Caitlyn has a LOT of self-loathing and is clearly still far from comfortable in her own skin, despite her millions of dollars being able to buy her a ton of expensive surgeries, clothes, makeup artists and hair stylists.
I think Caitlyn is a very confused woman who hasn’t accepted herself but still wants acceptance from the rest of the world. She’s surrounded herself with several trans women who have attempted to educate her on trans issues that affect the great majority of the community, because 99.9% of trans people do NOT have Caitlyn’s level of privilege. They actually have to live in the world and deal with the repercussions of being their true selves, but Caitlyn’s just not interested, which makes me far less interested in anything she has to say. It doesn’t surprise me at all that even after all this, she still doesn’t support people’s right to marry whoever they want since IT LITERALLY DOESN’T AFFECT ANYONE ELSE. You don’t need to be trans or gay or any other minority to understand that, really, but it just goes to show how oblivious some people are.
Ellen also told Howard that doing American Idol was the worst decision of her life, heh, so the whole interview is worth listening to just for that!
Proof positive that he is so much more Kardashian than he wants to admit. All the contouring and stylish wardrobe won’t make you more tolerant, it will just make you more self absorbed and up your own ass. Fuck this chick
I think s/he is only out for herself. S/He’s going through with this possible charade because s/he’s getting paid millions and the production company is probably paying the bills. Nobody is watching this tv show and it’s going to be cancelled. Let’s see what happens after it’s done. I think it’s a mistake for anyone to look to anyone in this family as a role model.
So let me get this straight, she’s a woman who has always felt that she is a woman, and she was married to women, while having a male body, but still personally identifying as a woman… And she is against gay marriage… Does this only seem strange to me?
I also kindof think this goes into the whole self discovery thing she needs to do now. She needs to come to terms with the fact that if she wants to be thought of as a woman and is still attracted to women, she may need to learn to get comfortable with the term ‘lesbian’. She’s not above the hoy paloy of calling herself gay. Otherwise, how are we supposed to get comfortable with calling her a woman?! It’s about coming to terms with a lot of stuff; some things you learn about yourself aren’t so comfortable, but life rarely is.
Evil Beet: Stop straining so hard to make up excuses for Cait! I can think of a lot of trans people who were ass-holes before they transitioned and remain ass-holes afterwards. Really, all the panicked excuses and arm-chair psychology you used in this article is pitiful. Look at it this way: You’re trying to stay loyal to a Kardashian Klan Krazy, ok?
Huh? I literally said she’s obviously got some issues, but she’s a mess. There is no “defending” of Caitlyn, but I’m also not going to pretend I understand the trans experience when I’m not a trans person.
Well, you certainly came across as someone who was trying to “explain” CJ’s opinions as possibly having something to do with adjusting to hormones et. al. Look, it was only a sex transition, not a brain transition. Look at Anne Curry. Would she be any less of a Nazi is she transitioned?