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Taylor Swift and a Swastika

Taylor Swift attended Katy Perry’s crazy 25th last weekend where guests were asked to show up in all white and throughout the night had paint splashed on them by other guests. Sounds like a crazy good time, right? One of the guests got so, um… carried away with his design that he or another guest painted a swastika on his shirt. And then Taylor Swift danced by him, and even worse, took a picture with him.

Now it’s safe to assume that even though she’s underage, Taylor had a cocktail or two at the affair. While this doesn’t sound like the kinda party you need to drink away, the crowd there that night wasn’t exactly sober and Taylor’s at the age where a girl would be drinking if she were in college even though it’s not exactly legal. I would say “Look at Lindsay Lohan”, but Taylor strikes me as a pretty good girl. I also see her as a smart girl. Even if she agreed with the message that this guy was putting out there, she probably would know better than to stand with the symbol had she been aware it was there. I have the feeling that Taylor may have been seeing double from her drinks and didn’t realize what she was looking at when she agreed to pose for a shot.

Does this image change your opinion of Taylor?

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  • It’s quite possible he was using the symbol in the religious sense. It’s not just a symbol that was used in Nazi Germany. They stole it from Hinduism, where it actually has a positive meaning.

    He doesn’t exactly look like a skin head to me.

  • Oh, come on! Who hasn’t doodled a swastika at some point? It’s just a very well recognised symbol which was probably the first to pop into his mind. It does not mean he’s a nazi.

    • I did maybe once. On a sheet of paper! He is a young kid. If it is normal to paint the first thing “to pop” into his head while attending a party with beautiful girls you would think he would have painted tits or a vagina on his shirt.

    • Neil – do you f-cking recall why the symbol is so well recognized?!?!? Over 8 million people were exterminated based on the premise of Nazi ideology. You are a f-cktard!!!!!!!!!! While I agree that his drawing the symbol does not mean he is a Nazi, it was highly inappropriate and insensitive!

      • There are quite a lot of fucktards on this site who find nothing wrong with swastikas. I’m scared about what that says about the general population.
        I comfort myself by assuming that there are a higher concentration of idiots here, though.

      • It’s the cross that scares the shit out of me most of the time, especially when some assmunch is holding it up as their get out of purgatory free card. Hopefully, you’re not one of those fucktards.

  • no. same sweet girl.
    it’s a drunken party, i guess this guy probably didn’t know the exact meaning of of the symbol (my chemistry professor used this sign as an example for symmetry groups).

    they both don’t strike me like neo nazis nor skin heads, just a case of bad judgement (or taste), to me as a jew this is not offensive.

  • Yes, it makes me think she’s not as intelligent as I thought.

    @Neil – are you kidding? I realise the Second World War isn’t as dominant in American culture as it is in British, but there’s absolutely no way you could draw a swastika here without considering how loaded a symbol it is. Most people are aware that it *used* to be just a religious symbol, but that doesn’t take away from what it still stands for in most people’s minds, especially considering how popular it still is with neo-Nazi groups.

    This was an idiotic thing to do at best. I doubt these kids intended to give offence, but they will have done so to some people anyway. And there will be those, like me, who aren’t offended, but in whose opinion she will have gone down several notches.

  • Taylor’s rep said that she didn’t know what was on his shirt when she took pics with him and the guy put out a formal apology too. It isn’t really a scandal if they’re both sorry and had no malicious intent.

    • It is just a case of good ole adolescent stupidity. After one strike (on a blown call) I’m not about to say she has struck out. After the Kanye incident maybe she is attracted to douche bags now. PTSD maybe.

  • Why are you all so pathetic that you even have to write this stupid story? What the hell was she going to do? “Hey I am sorry but I can not be photographed near you because you have that painted on your shirt…”

    Be realistic. It isn’t some perverse little dig she is just getting her damn picture taken. She isn’t the one that has that on her chest. I’m not a big Taylor Swift fan but there is no sense in being stupid about it.

    I don’t drink but if I went to a party and someone came up to me holding a beer bottle wanting to get a picture with me am I going to say “Sorry bud but I don’t want people thinking that i’m drinking to…” NO! Chances are I probably wouldn’t even notice it.

    • Thank you! I was wondering when someone was going to realize what a stupid story this is to begin with. It’s a party full of a bunch of kids that were having fun.

      • You make me want to VOMIT!!!!!! I am SURE that Beet is more than ashamed to have a “daily reader” like you!!!

    • My daughter wouldn’t take a picture with a guy wearing a swastika on his shirt. If she noticed it, she’d probably cross the room to get away from him.

      • Oh, sorry, I thought you lived in Germany. We love Nazis here, and delight in the fact that so many Jews now enjoy driving Mercedes and BMW’s.

  • She probably didn’t even notice, people don’t go around parties checking T-shirts for swastikas.

  • I am sure that I am standing next to people I don’t agree with or even like in photos. I’m not famous. It happens. It doesn’t mean that I agree with 100% of anyone’s perspectives when I stand next to them and a flash bulb goes off.

    It’s ok. Deep breaths everyone.

    I even have a picture from my wedding where a couple of guests showed up wearing outrageous clothing. I thought their attire was inappropriate and half wanted a pic just to remember it. There are loads of reasons for taking pics….

  • PS the boy/man with the shirt… Looks like he went to the party as Rumor Willis with Lourdes’ glasses on.

  • Painted the way it is… he’s wearing the Nazi version of the swastika, which represents hatred and evil to most people.

    If he had painted it squared up (instead of at an angle) then it would have represented peace, good luck, and prosperity.

    He’s either an idiot for not noticing the difference, or an idiot for thinking a Nazi swastika is ‘hip’ to wear.

  • I doubt Katy Perry’s birthday was a secret Klan meeting and the picture was the proof of her involvement in the Aryan Nation. That symbol long before the Nazi’s co-opted it, has been used in the Hindu Religion for over 4k years. It’s not even drawn in the same direction, or at the right angle as a swastika. I think it says more about the people who think this is a scandal, Taylor didn’t decorate the non Nazi Swastika, so whats the big deal?

    It’s like something so manufactured, she said she was sorry if the non nazi symbol offended anyone. It’s sad that this even made news anywhere.

  • This is silly, and just a ploy for publicity for the gossip site. Taylor Swift is what?, 21? Given the state of education these days, she probably doesn’t know what a swastika is.

  • She seems very naive and a people-pleaser. Probably was afraid to turn him down when he asked to be photographed with her. She should really be more careful.

  • Tay1’s still cool in my book. She’s young. It was a wild party. She took tons of pictures and she probably let her guard down to have fun and wasn’t hyper-aware of the weight of the world around her.
    Who hasn’t acted a fool and/or partied with a fool? More still, who hasn’t had personal lowlights documented in some fashion? Now imagine Taylor Swift world: She practically lives with a camera and a reporter (and a Kanye) in her face.
    It is, however, disconcerting that I find myself wondering if her CD sales have spiked in the deep south over the last couple of days.

    • The junior conspiracy theory detectives have conjectured that it stands for “Jew Hater”. In a more sane world, Julianne Hough had ‘TS’ painted on her dress at the party, while Taylor Swift had ‘JH’ painted on hers.

  • How old is Taylor Swift? 12. I bet she doesn’t even know what the thing means. They don’t teach world history to kids that are home schooled.

    • Wow. You are extremely ignorant.

      First of all Taylor is 19 – not 12. She looks her age, so I’m not sure why you though that. Also, she was home schooled for 11th & 12th grade only……..if she doesn’t know what a swastika is (which I’m sure she does) then that’s the fault of the shitty PUBLIC SCHOOLS she attended. And for the record, home schooled children are smarter and score WAY higher than those at “regular schools.” I can attest considering I was home schooled for part of my life and *GASP* I took World History.

      : )

  • wow. i’m surprised how many people think it’s not a big deal to put a swastika on his shirt. it’s extremely offensive! do you also think it’s okay to write the N-word or dress up in blackface, too?

    Everyone in the world knows what a swastika is, if taylor doesn’t then she is just an idiot. and she goes down a bit in my book, although i don’t think she is a bad person – but this was in bad taste.

  • GOD! who the fuck cares. it’s just a swastika. i don’t see him killing anyone (which was why the swastika is a problem). he’s just a dumb boy going for the shock-value edge.

    • The swastika is not just a problem when it accompanies killing. Your ignorance is deplorable.
      However, most people realize what a swastika actually means and what it’s usual intended to do. So in answer to your question of who cares; A lot of people care.

      It must be so comforting to be a total idiot. You never have to spend any time thinking of the broader implications of anything.

      • wow, i am curious as to why you are so intensly angry about this. you say that most people realize what a swastica actually means. well yes, as demonstrated by this thread, most people are aware that it was an ancient religious symbol coopted by the nazis. why are you taking this so personally?

      • no. the original symbol was different. it was not on a slant and there were dots between each bent angle. the nazi’s did copy it but you are an idiot if you think the nazi symbol and the hindu/buddhist/jain symbol are the same.

    • Hey “call-in”,

      “it’s just a swastika.”
      “it’s just a swastika.”
      “it’s just a swastika.”

      Your a fucking moron.

      Are you the idiot who would walk into a NAACP meeting with a noose on your shirt and say “its just a piece of rope”?

      Why don’t you do like your name says, and “call-in” and get a fucking clue.

  • drunken stupidity…hmmm sounds like kanye but i don’t see her being called any names, i see excuses being made for her …hmmmmm

  • This is my educated guess…not an “excuse” but perhaps a “reason”…

    As a designer…it looks to me that it started out as a big X on his shirt. You can see where the black highlights don’t extend to the smaller lines that change it from an X to a swastika. Soo…

    I assume that pre-drinky-drink Taylor met this dude when he had an X on his shirt. The drinks got flowing, some other douche-bag at the party changed it to a swastika by adding the smaller lines and at this point, Taylor was a little cocktail-ed up and never thought to check and see if the X was now a swastika.

    Parties like this are never as brightly lit as flash photography makes them seem. My guess is that there were strobe-lights at best and a strobe light + alcohol can change pretty much anything into a large blur-patch.

    • oh my god… “as a designer???” So okay, since you are a “designer,” you are the end all, be all right?

      Who cares if before Nazi Germany the swastika was considered good luck, et al.?
      The fact that it was a symbol of the most extreme hate ever, not to mention 6 million dead Jews (not counting of course the countless gypsies, homosexuals and “Jew Lovers” who also perished), overshadows whatever it used to be.

      Who cares if it started off as an X on his shirt?
      The minute whatever dunce changed it to make it into a swastika, the shirt should’ve been removed and/or photographers should’ve refused to take the picture.

      Who cares about the lighting during the party?
      Unless I am 99% blind, I would see a GIANT RED swastika on a white t-shirt when I’m about to take a picture with the person wearing it.

      then again I’m not a “designer”

    • It figures you’d say you are a fucking designer. I hate people that say they are designers. I bet you couldn’t design a fucking bag for me to shit a turd in and light on fire on your porch, you putz.

  • Every time I see a swastika I’m so glad that Hitler didn’t use the symbol he originally planned on using during his years of extermination. If he had, I’d catch holy hell every time I wear my yellow “Happy Face” button out in public. Thanks, Adolf!

    • By “perfect” I must assume you choose to ignore that she looks like a cross between a human and a giant rat?! I can just see her hitting the cheese tray at all the soirees she sneaks out of her nest and attends.

  • Ya, I still love Taylor Swift but that was a really bad judgement call. And it doesn’t help that she is blonde haired, blue-eyed and has JH written on her dress. Drunk or not, I think that she should apologize.

  • Forget Taylor Swift posing with swastika guy. I can’t believe no one called him on that thing and requested him to change or leave the party. Swastika’s are offensive! And if that douche didn’t know that, he should’ve been schooled!

  • Ok, so when Miley Cyrus posed with friends making “squinty eyes” while the one Asian in the group made “wide eyes” the world had a shit fit, but when Taylor Swift poses with a dude wearing a GIANT swastika, it’s just a harmless joke and no big deal. Good to see there aren’t any double standards.

    And if Taylor Swift was drinking (and I don’t have a problem with underage drinking, I did go to college) it would be EXTREMELY hypocritical of Taylor. She has said on countless occasions she doesn’t feel a need to rebel and drink, or go out and get wasted like other kids her age because she’s beyond that.

    Oh Taylor, Taylor, Taylor.

    • There isn’t any proof that she was, infact, drinking. People were just guessing — which isn’t fair, really.

  • Look at that fucking hipster.

    The easiest way to clear this all up would be to track that guy down and ask him what the hell was up with his shirt. Look at him. That guy definitely has a Twitter.

  • Guess some of you are a little young or dont remember Prince Harry’s “Nazi” gear? Now that was a palace stinger (say it like moe from the simpson’s sting-ger).

    I often say you get a pass till your 21. Most stupid things we did or do in life is done in 21 and under.

    No I dont agree with it, I hate it like a burning cross. I would hope my children will know better.

    Bad judgement for him, worse for her. Lets hope she hasnt committed career suicide by error of association.

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    a little note.

    Big Brother William got the actual brunt of the Hitler costume!

    And years later Harry is the hottie!

    So I think she will be ok.

  • Get over it. People like you are the reason why he’s wearing it in the first place – to piss off the easily offended.

    I get tired of these sort of stories and photos coming out to make news out of nothing. She posed with this guy. He’s got a highly controversial symbol on his shirt. The end. Doesn’t make her a Nazi, Nazi-supporter, murderer, murder supporter, out of control teenager, alcoholic.. It doesn’t make her anything other than what she was before this photo was taken.

    Can I say it’s smart for her image to do this? No, because some idiots take something so minor extremely personally. She better just stand on stage and sing, otherwise someone might get upset.

  • I can only hope that the symbol was meant to signify good luck.

    On the flip side being German I do not feel any guilt or shame at the sight of this symbol. My grandfather’s fought on the side of the Allies to bring down Hitler and all the evil he represented.

    It is bad enough that Hitler took this symbol and turned it into something ugly. By continuing to link Nazis with the swastika, all it does is continue to confuse and sully the original nobility of the symbol for Brahma.

    I have from time to time wondered if the only reason the swastika is still so strongly vilified and the Holocaust routinely dredged up, is to create a continued sympathy for the Jewish people in Israel, to enable them to themselves commit evils, like the continued extermination of the Palestinians.

  • taylor probably just got roped into taking a picture with a random fan who thinks shes hot. chances are they were both a little tipsy anyways. also, interesting title, but i wouldnt go right to scandal?

  • It doesn’t change my opinion of her at all either… I never liked her, and I sure as hell don’t after seeing these pictures.

  • I have been to white tshirt parties and I garuntee someone else painted the swastika on him. He probably wasn’t impressed himself. But he didn’t want to leave a fab party and he didn’t want to miss having a picture with Taylor.

  • the swatsika totally startes out as a symbol of peace…go to any greek diner you’ll see it all over the place. honestly shes a little girl at a big girls party. who cares whats one they other guys shirt its not on hers.

  • Why would it change anybodys opinion of her?! She is not wearing, who the fuck cares if she is taking a picture with him?! People throw shit out of proportion way to much!!

  • Taylor swift doesnt drink! shes probably just taking a picture with a fan, just because its the nazi sign doesnt mean she supports the nazis..get a life anyway! its just a stupid picture.

  • omfg, this isnt a fucking swastika.. this is the symbol for friendship in many parts of the world, hitler changes the origional “S” shape and put it into a “Z” shape, making it the opposite of friendship. Get your fucking facts straight before you start calling taylor swift a fuckin nazi

    • By definition this is indeed a swastika. The nazi swastika simply takes the sign for good luck and rotates it 45 degrees.

      I don’t really think anyone is implying that Swift is a nazi, just in bad company for the photo.

      You should perhaps get you facts straight, so you do not look such a douche on the internet.

  • why would this change my idea of her? shes not the one with it on her dress. i dont understand why this is so bad. honestly.