Everyone knows now that Sarah Palin is stepping down as governor of Alaska. As The Last Frontier heaves a collective sigh of relief that is so deep it may sink the state into the Bering Sea, Palin’s father-in-law got the news a day late.
Jim Palin was salmon fishing on Saturday, the day after Sarah’s announcement, when he read his email and learned that his daughter-in-law of the past 21 years had resigned. “We had no idea it was coming. Nobody seemed to know; they’re extremely private people. Obviously, Sarah and Todd had thought it through and as far as the future lies, and based on what she said, I feel confident they have several options available to them and we will support them in whatever they do.”
Sigh. Can we just get down to the part where whatever the Palingate scandal is that’s brewing gets revealed? Sarah Palin finally admits that Trig, her son born in 2008 isn’t really hers? Footage of Sarah Palin at a Motel 6 in a passionate embrace with one of her aides gets released?
We’re a strong people; we can take it. Lay it on us, Sarah.
I hope she goes far, far away. Where we can’t ever see her. Even farther away than Russia. Dumb bitch.
I hope this means that she will have more time to fly in her helicopter to shoot wild, harmless animals and then she falls out at 400 ft.
Man, I listened to that speech three times over a two day period, and I still can’t figure out what the hell she’s saying. I mean, clearly she’s leaving her position as Governor, but why? Is it to play basketball?
Please, please let it be a scandal involving large mammals, building material and fat-free dessert topping.
*laugh!*
You’ve spent a lot of time thinking about this one, haven’t you?
Sadly no… I am just that twisted.
Wow. Nice…
Gee my psychiatrist just backs away slowly when stuff like that comes out of my mouth… thanks for the cyber-acceptance. :)
You couldn’t see, but I was backing away slowly as I said it.
*grin*
get a load of those clunky unprofessional shoes she’s got on! UGGGGLEEEEE!
She even walks like an idiot.
Yeah, an idiot I’d love to see crawling across my bedroom floor wearing that furskin bikini that Raquel Welch sported in One Million Years B.C.. She can skin wolves and baby seals in my snow machine garage any fucking time she wants.
Really?
She may be thin but she has popped out 5 kids. Her stomach no doubt is a collection of scars, stretch marks, and rippled saggy skin.
She may look moderately attractive with lots of make-up, big hair, and expensive clothing. Take her clothes off and she looks like any 45 year old hag.
Oh well, I don’t care if she looks like a Sharpei naked, I’d still park my grill up against her trunk any day.
Dude, aren’t you like old? And married? So unless you’re doing some major cradle robbing in a couple of years you’re gonna be hitched to a “45-year old hag”.
Insinuating that she’s had a sexual affair and that her baby is not hers? I thought this was a feminist site?
The definition for Feminist clearly states that women only protect one another when the other person is uglier or less interesting than you are. Otherwise, it’s just like your mom taught you. Tear the bitch to pieces just like men do. That’s why women will be the last minority to be elected President, unless they can run another homely assed fattie with cankles like Hillary in 8 years. Hurry up and gain some weight, Chelsea, you already got the face for higher office.
The fatal flaw in your logic is that Palin is neither pretty or interesting.
And here’s your perfect example^
Um… The baby would be hers even if she’d had sex with another man and gotten pregnant by him.
I had a sneaking suspicion you had a higher education.
That’s funny. I didn’t catch it the first read.
The two things don’t have to be related. She could have had an affair, and the kid could be her daughter’s baby.
Read what Zelda said again. That wasn’t the implication.
I think Zelda meant the rumors about Trig not being hers but Bristols in the last part.
I just want to know, is why so many women commentators and bloggers still feel it is necessary to publicly kill this woman… I would think that as a woman governor and last election’s losing running mate with a bright political future; regardless of which lever you pull in the voting booth, that women would support her. Not giving a shit about her politics, but just support her…
Is it because the unfunny shrew, Tina Fey, parodies her? I don’t get it…
That “Zelda Lily” should be on the Palin bandwagon; not trying to derail her at every opportunity… Disappointed in the female media representation. Poor job guys.
Women should support a woman who’s politics she disagree with simply because she’s a woman?
Yes, to an extent… just the fact that she’s out there, and she’s getting hit with the same, lame, dumbass, “she’s a woman” stereotypes” yes, they should support her in her ability to do what she’s doing… I did say you didn’t have to support her politics, god forbid the liberals would learn something… Obama is taking care of everything for us now, … wow what a job he’s doing.
It’s difficult to back a woman who so clearly shows she’s inept. A woman like her becoming the face of all women is a horrific thought and actually takes the womens’ movement back. If a qualified woman ran, I think lots of women would be there to support her..they did for Hilary.
Hilary, that’s your qualified woman? She studied under an ‘anti american anarchist” and was a do nothing woman that landed in the White House; the shrew somehow got all the idiot Liberals of NY to think she belonged there and got her unqualified ass voted in… the only thing she did was lie, cheat and steal… way to go!!! wooo hooo… qualified.
And what I believe, not putting words in your mouth, is “qualified liberal woman”… as we saw what the liberal media and women did to Condi Rice… Now she has qualifications… there is no argument there… the majority of liberal women listen to what they are told to think and do… no excuse to what was done last year to Ms. Rice and not one women’s group had her back.
Maybe Hilary got in because of her connections, but that’s practically how all politicians get in. They pull strings and use their network systems and BAM they’re magically in office.
No, I didn’t mean “liberal” qualified woman per se, but if I’m going to support a candidate, I WILL want her to have the same views as me. If those views happen to be on the liberal side of the spectrum, then so be it. I can respect a conservative qualified woman but I have definitely not seen one yet.
Any accomplishments that Condi might have achieved have probably turned into crud the moment Bush and his administration touched them, as he is like the anti-Midas.
This is seriously pathetic. You make the argument that she should be supported by women because she’s a woman, as if you’re a real true blue feminist. Then you turn around and talk about Clinton’s appearance and keep calling women “shrews”. Not to mention how incredibly insulting it is to say women should think and vote based on our gender. Do you have any idea what it is you are saying???
And her ability to “do what she’s doing”? What is that exactly? I should support any woman with the guts to run for public office although she knows nothing about politics, this country, geography, the very role of the office she’s running for, American government, and basic rules of grammar??? Some people have a serious problem with confusing bravery for stupidity. Not to mention she stands on the opposite side of me on almost every social issue, especially those concerning women.
These are all old arguments anyway. If you still aren’t convinced after the way women stood up and rejected Sarah Palin last fall that we may have a brain independent of our sex organs, you won’t be convinced now. God forbid YOU learn something.
And for the record, a lot of those “she a woman” stereotypes come from the men who voted for her because they thought she was hot. How sexist is that? I’ll rail against that treatment any day. Will you stand with me, Beet czar? Of course not. Because you don’t actually believe or care about anything you claim to believe or care about.
Uhhh, people voted for Obama because he was black… was that right? …And why shouldn’t a woman governor be celebrated… Politics has been an Old Boys Club, and don’t forget Condi Rice… tell me why she has not received support! Come on… she’s more than qualified…as for the shrews, just calling them as I see them… tell me you can sit through The View without wanting to take a coffee mug to Joy Behar’s head? If you can restrain yourself from that; well, then, we’ll agree to disagree.
Is that what you’re telling yourself to get over the utter defeat of the Republican party in the past election? You think we all voted for Obama because he’s black??
Yeah, it couldn’t be because we agreed with his politics. Or even that we hated McCain. Nope. It’s because he was black. Screw you.
As for Condy, she was a mouthpiece who refused to stand against torture. I’m supposed to support her? Why, because she’s a woman?
Using your logic, we should all be supporting her already just because she’s black.
Oops. That was me. I’m not trying to be anonymous on purpose.
Beet Czar – while I do like Sarah Palin’s views and hope to see her again in 2012, I don’t think voting for someone simply because of their gender is the right way to go. It should be the best “person” for the job. That’s why I couldn’t stand Hilary, even though she claimed to be a woman.
Geeze – that’s like people voting for someone for president just because of his skin color, and we all people would NEVER be that stupid, right?
Not saying you have to vote for her… but I would think as a woman, she would have received more support just for being there… not constantly attacked, because of her views, but attacked as a woman… Hell, watch any episode of that screamfest “The View”… Again, qualified = Condoleezza Rice, and she got blasted too, and not one woman’s group defended her…. I just don’t get it… And yeah, all the politically correct, holier than thou, I can vote an unqualified black man into office because I am more progressive than you??? yeah, that would never happen… how many more years?
You think Obama was elected because he’s black?
Partly yes! Black voters came out in record numbers; liberal voters were inundated with “the right choice” and “made to feel bad if they crossed party lines to a moderate Republican because the ultra-Liberal was black… and Obama organized an awesome internet campaign, and is continuing to do so… the “junior Obama fans” in High School now will be voters in 2012… so he’s organizing his ass off… who cares if he has no experience and was unqualified… when he talked from a script, he was very eloquent… Just shows what all that $$ can do for you… Condoleezza Rice was more qualified and black… but, omg, she was a conservative and a woman.
No… I think it was because of his 100 or so hours of experience as a junior senator, and his questionable eligibilty of citizenship. Oh, not to mention his constantly changing view points on things.
When I see some idiot who doesn’t know their ass from a hole in the wall wearing an Obama t-shirt, I kinda just assume they probably didn’t vote the issues.
Condoleeza is a thousand times better and brighter than Sarah Palin will ever be. She was attacked because of her poor responses to the 9/11 commission.
She was also attacked, albeit rather unfairly, just for being part of one of the worst administrations in our country’s history. And that is a bipartisan view, although I myself am unapologetically liberal.
I won’t go to far into the Bush Administration, only to say he made a mistake and caved in to liberal pressure with Iraq. If you are talking worst administrations, we can go back and visit the impeached Mr. Clinton.
Condi Rice received no support from any woman’s or minority group, whatsoever, and was an accomplished Secy of State. Before that she was a special assistant to the Joint Chiefs of Staffs, was a National Security Advisor and on the National Security Council and was treated worse than “Weezy” from the Jeffersons for breaking George’s egg yokes.
Colin Powell resigned. Condy could’ve resigned too. You don’t have to stay in a situation that challenges your ethics. That’s why I think it’s not unfair to attack her for accepting and continuing in a voluntary position with the Bush administration.
So, Beet Czar, you don’t want to get into Bush, except to try to blame his mistakes on liberals? What the fuck ever.
I love liberals! so elite, we need you to tell us just what we should be thinking…. my point on Sarah Palin, is just why she never got support as a minority in the position she held… yes, she’s not the brightest, shining star in the political sky; but what if she was a liberal; would she have got her ass handed to her by the media, I don’t think so; like I mentioned earlier, it was more than 25 words, so trace along with your finger… but look what the media did to Condoleezza Rice; probably the most qualified woman in politics; for no other reason than she was a conservative. There is no argument that she was attacked, and unjustly so. Not one bit of support from any women’s group…That has been my point, and remains so… you can’t argue that, so call me names, tell me to do things to myself, show me your colors! Love ya! Don’t change! :*
I do agree with the misogyny in the media. As much as I can’t stand her, the Obama campaign spared nothing in dragging Hilary through the dirt. Shame on them. I thought they were the party of love and tolerance…
Alzaetia, thank you for the “screw you”… now I know I’m dealing with a liberal when you run out of coherent arguments and have to say shit like that! Priceless… Bush will be remembered better than you think, wait ’til Obama sets the US back 20 years; it will be different then… Condi didn’t have to resign, what was her reasons for it? She’s been an amazing asset for this country.
I answered your arguments, and then said screw you. And I stand behind that. Screw you for thinking that I couldn’t make a political decision based on anything other than race.
What has your contribution to the political argument been? That we should support a candidate because of her gender? That Bush’s missteps have all been because of “liberals”?
Of course she didn’t have to resign. I said she had the option of doing that. She didn’t do that, so she is deserving of the scorn she has received for being a part of the Bush administration.
Your cute little arguments lacked substance; it was the “screw you” that you really wanted to say from the beginning.. it’s ok… it’s the liberal protocol; the Clintons’ were the experts of the “attack back” media strategy. Rice, as part of the Bush Administration will be remembered for much more than Clinton’s or Obama’s. But we strayed away from Palin; can you fit your other foot in your mouth too?
My cute little arguments had more substance than the nothing you’ve presented so far.
If I had wanted to say screw you right at the beginning, I would have. I said it when I did because that’s when you deserved it.
Beet Czar, you wanted the second most powerful person in the U.S. to be woman who believes humans coexisted with dinosaurs. I hate to break it to you, but you’re fucking retarded.
so just because i’m a woman and she’s a woman i should agree with every dimwitted thing that comes out of ther mouth? sorry, no – i don’t agree or disagree with anyone based on their sex, race or religion . i have a mind of my own and while i support any woman’s right to run for office that’s as far as my blanket support goes. palin is an incoherent mess who gets no support from me.
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There is a federal investigation going on that involves the building of her home by the same contractor who “won” the contract for the largest sports center built in the state in the last decade. I could go into more detail but more than likely she is taking that huge book advance and going to grab as much speaking engagement money as she can in order to defend herself, there are also no less than 5 separate ethics investigation, she’s a pile of shit shady politician. Do any of you realize that buffoon McCain let this train wreck vie for the second highest office in the land? This woman is a monster, a backward money grubbing, needs to be in federal prison, really bad person who abused her power.
I hope she walks out on a ice floe and saves us the money of prosecuting her dumb ass, that would be decent of her to do. She’s going to line her pockets as fast as she can. She knows when all of these crimes come to light she isn’t going to be allowed to hold office again. Shitbag.
Like Obama and his gang of thieves are any more honest? They’re robbing you blind while you sit back and take it!
evidence, please.
You really mean that? Hold on while I pop the balloon you call a head with this stickpin.
Oh wow. I think the debate winner is tatertots. When you meant “evidence”, you meant you wanted someone to insult you like a bratty 12 year old, yes???
But what do I know? I’m probably just jealous of tatertots’ looks, and that’s why I’m responding this way. I can’t help it. I a woman! I don’t know any better!
In response to Beet Czar:
The reason Condoleeza Rice, although incredibly more qualified than Sarah Palin, was attacked so much, has a lot to do with her public questioning in front of the the 9/11 commission. She reiterated how the Bush administration had no idea about Osama bin Laden’s plans and how the Clinton administration had failed to warn them. Then she was basically toast when they made her hold up and say the name of the intelligence memo given to the administration in August 2001 entitled, “Osama bin Laden Determined to Attack Inside the U.S.” She also mentioned the specific references to hijacking.
And she was part of the administration that saw two (unjust) wars, Hurricane Katrina, and an economic meltdown. This is administration full of scandal (Alberto Gonzalez, the Plame Affair). An admin full of failed attempts (social security privatization, Harriet Myers). This is an administration where the president took a record amount of vacation time. This is an administration that made no qualms about protecting the “haves” and not the “have-nots”, made abundantly clear in the tax cuts for the wealthiest 1% of Americans in war time. This is an administration that is still under fire because of shaky policies on torture and wiretapping. You are certainly entitled to your own views about all of these things. The American public is also entitled to their opinion, and for a lot of us (even us women), Rice’s involvement with this administration and fierce defense of Preident Bush permanently taints her. I have no issue with her intelligence or her background. I understand the obstacles she has overcome to achieve what she has achieved. For me personally, this is overshadowed by the role she played in the worst administration in our history (which once again, is a common held opinion- not fact. You don’t have to agree)
And I don’t know how else to explain to you the insult implied in your confusion as to why women didn’t support an idiot for vice president just because of our common anatomy. This should not confuse anyone who believes women are able to think and vote independent of their sex organs.
And it’s clear you feel very attacked by posters on this site, yet you seem to have no recollection of the attacks you spew left and right about liberals and shrews, etc. I wonder if you’re really ignorant of your double standards, or if it just doesn’t matter to you to practice what you preach.
wow, quite well thought out; way to use google…and I didn’t read the whole thing, lot of blah blah blah, but I don’t believe you cursed at me once… good job… i have never said a bad word about any poster on this site, i respect the site too much… and still stand behind Condoleezza Rice’s qualifications, ethics and morality. She’s a dynamic, educated, sophisticated woman… what should be looked up to… and again, I won’t go into Bush Admin unless you want to go scandal for scandal with the Clintons, they killed people (and there are more than a few), and tell the soldiers, some of my family included, that are over in Iraq, Kuwait and Pakistan that they are fighting an unjust war… How dare you! Congratulations, you’ve proved my point again.
So sorry the blah blah blah and facts bore you so much. Just proves you don’t care about facts or truths, etc. You’ve dismissed my posting because I answered your questions perhaps using too many words and because I made sure to google the name of the 9/11 report so that I was factually accurate and not just paraphrasing. Then you had the gall to smugly remark and how I didn’t swear at you.
You’ve clearly given up on the initial Palin argument, and have somehow turned everything into your staunch defense of Condoleeza’s background. No one is debating her background. And we have explained our reasons for not supporting her (although it’s debatable whether you were open to understanding why we wouldn’t support her since you didn’t even bother to read my comment).
I have friends who are soldiers as well. Please get rid of these old conservative arguments how liberals don’t support troops, etc.
because we don’t support the war. Especially since these days it is not only liberals who oppose this war. It’s the majority of the country.
And please do explain to me how I’ve proven your point, because your point seems to be lost somewhere in your bullying rants and declarations of love towards Sarah Palin and now Condoleeza Rice. You’re condescending attitude is noted, but completely unfounded in the incoherent, conspiracy theory dribble that was your last paragraph.
And, by the way, I’m just as interested in hearing about Clinton murder conspiracies as I am about hearing how the Bush admin caused 9/11. Not at all.
And let me clarify:
No, you haven’t specifically namecalled. But let’s quit the passive agressive B.S. and acknowledge that your smug, condescending “liberal” crap and stupid smiley faces are insulting and meant to be so. If you are truly ignorant that this is the impression you give off, please let me be the first to educate you.
wow, more name calling; yeah Bush never had anyone on his staff killed; sorry about that.. and yes you steered away from Palin… which my original point is that she gets no support from the women’s groups because they are beholden to the liberal media…
Now, hold on, answer this… IF Palin was a liberal democrat, regardless of her intelligence factor and her view of Russia from her back porch; would she get more support in the media or from The View or from any number of Women’s Groups out there… Be honest! I know, for one, that Elizabeth Hasselbeck would be gettingn her ass kicked by Joy Behar and Whoopi… the majority of the people in the US support the war on terror and the troops.. but please, my liberal friend, tell me more of what I should know and how I should think… it’s what you do. Thank you…
After my first response to you, you started talking about Condoleeza Rice. You can’t begin to pin that on anyone else because there is evidence contrary to your claims on this very page!
And, as I mentioned before, I am not interested in conspiracy theories. If that’s all you have to fall back on now, so be it. I’m not interested. I have plenty of issues witht eh Clinton administration, but am not interested in some internet dither about secret murders and coverups. Sorry.
I have never told you how you should think. I have mentioned a couple of times that we may disagree on a lot. I have even said my opinions were subjective and personal. Please do fact check, or at least read my comments before responding foolishly. Also, check the latest polls coming out about Iraq. I am not making crap up just for fun.
And to answer your question about if Sarah Palin were a liberal, I think she would be treated the same as a lot of Hollywood ceelbrities. She would be taken with a grain of salt. I know I, as a liberal, wouldn’t vote for anybody who knew as little about American government as Sarah Palin, no matter what his/her political affiliation was. Maybe it’s a “liberal” thing. We like educated polticians. As do a lot of Conservatives, in fact. Look at Peggy Noonan. She criticized Palin from the getgo. And I’m not even sure what to make of your obsession with “The View”. That is not what I really consider mainstream media. To each his own, I guess.
You don’t know “what I do”. You wouldn’t, because you can’t bother reading my comments. You’re falling back on your typical, predictable, smug passive agressive comments. And I’m not referring to all conservatives now. I’m referring to you, specifically, and the things you have written on this page.
Here are some facts, to counteract your murderer claims and to show you examples :
*Mike Brown resigned as the head of FEMA because he was not qualified as a horse expert to deal with a natural disaster like Katrina. It took Bush days to even respond. He also wouldn’t agree to let the Louisiana National Guard leave Afghanistan to come save their drowning state. Many people were left dead and rotting in their homes only to be found later by family members because of the slow response.
*Scooter Libby was found guilty of disclosing classified information about the identity of an undercover CIA agent. Scooter Libby was Dick Cheney’s top advisor.
*Alberto Gonzalez was forced to resign after a scandal involving the politicization of the Justice Department.
*pending investigations into the use of torture (waterboarding)
*Abu Ghraib scandal, Rumfseld’s resignation
*Walter Reed military hospital scandal
*investigation into the legality of wiretapping U.S. citizens
*False information connecting Saddam Hussein and al qaeda, leading to pre-emptively starting a war which has cost us trillions of dollars and countless lives.
The list can go on and on, if you’d like. And nothing on this list in a conspiracy. I haven’t mentioned at all the fact that millions of people believe Bush and Cheney are war criminals and should be prosecuted. As I mentioned before, I don’t need conspiracy theories to support my beliefs that the Bush adminsitration was the worst we’ve ever had.
And I thought you weren’t gonna get into ‘internet conspiracies”… see, you couldn’t help yourself by telling me what I should know and how I should think… Clinton’s list, is enough to fill up 3 pages of type, and if we include the wonderful Senator from Arkansas(somehow in NY), the list doubles…
You are wrong, however, in that, Sarah Palin, if liberal, would have been lauded and glorified, just like the inexperienced, unqualified congressman from Illinois… and that guy got elected president… No, Sarah Palin would have a cabinet seat right now if she was a democrat! The View, not obsessed, omg, never, just an example of liberal bias and blather. I would rather sit through an hour of Maury Povich DNA testing his studio audience to see who the father is of the mother of the day… Sorry for intellectual banter there… But all I have said from the beginning is that Sarah Palin has not been supported; and should have been. Polls just released show she has not dropped in popularity, scary as it seems, she might be around in 2012, though I’d rather see her on Maury Povich; I’ll explain that one if you want.. it’s a joke… It is my belief that the liberals look to attack and the conservatives say, “ok, what do we have to do to make this work.”
Gotta go, I’m sure you’ll tell me more later.
What did I mention on that list is an internet conspiracy? Please tell me and prove your point by something other than a smug response!
I’ve listed actual non-editorial section, front page story facts to you, yes, and maybe that’s what you mean by I’m telling you “what you should know”. You have the choice as to educate yourself or not. You have the choice as to read the news or stay ignorant. There. Is that clear enough for you? YOU CAN BE AS IGNORANT AS YOU’D LIKE. Just don’t turn around then and expect to be taken seriously when you have no basis in reality to support any of your claims. If you want to argue based on snarky comments and gut feelings, prepare to be responded to in a similar fashion.
And you are also free to say whatever vague nonsense you’d like about the Clinton’s. You have no evidence and nothing to back yourself up except for snarky comments. And until you have anything concrete to say, you will not be taken seriously.
Also, you may be correct that Barack Obama was politically inexperienced as opposed to some who have been in Congress for years. You do also understand, however, that “qualified” is subjective. And even if it weren’t subjective, the fact that the majority of Americans chose him as the “qualified” candidate would mean that YOUR definition was in fact the incorrect definition.
I agree with you that the View is similar to Maury Povich. In fact, they are both classified as talk shows. So who cares? Why are you so upset about the View? If that’s your source for the news, I understand why you have only internet conspiracies to back your beliefs up.
And I’ve already responded earlier on as to why I, and possibly a great deal of other women, did not and do not supprot Sarah Palin. The main reason being that she is a political nitwit. And yes, you’re right, the polls are showing Republicans still like her. And I like that! Please do run her in 2012! What a treat for the rest of us! A landslide! Wouldn’t have to break our backs fundraising, that’s for sure.
Obama has a great chance winning, because he’ll actually have experience now..something new for him and he has the media in his pocket; if you understood what I wrote; I do not feel Palin is competent for that office, just that she should be supported for trying and for having been the governor of Alaska… women governors are a rarity… But you’ll go on and on… omg, how you love to talk and think you are teaching me something…
If you ask a question of someone, don’t mock them for answering. Simple as that. And I’m sorry you hate that I’ve listed off actual facts and events. It seems you’re embracing the same culture of stupidity and ignorance that I believe Sarah Palin embraces. I’ve never claimed or tried to be a teacher. I thought I was repeating things you knew and was using EVIDENCE to support my BELIEFS. That’s how one usually debates when one is asked to explain their position. Why that is smugly amusing to you is beyond me…
Dear Dinosaurs, I commented, you answered, duh, it’s the means of the blog… what are you implying, that I’m scared to debate with someone that is less informed than me, I’m ok with talking to you… I don’t feel the need to clutter up the pages here with “facts” I could… but why bother, it’s easy enough to just succinctly state the position I had in the original post and your counters in the ones that followed… you are enjoyable to read; so yes, you amuse me ( you can google the goodfellas reference). Again, Sarah Palin, if a liberal, would not be treated the same way she has been as a conservative… and it follows with Condoleezza Rice… the liberal media and it’s sycophants and other assorted ilk will continue to fill up blogs with their hate; keeping the Old Boys Club alive! Thanks.
I answered and you keep saying how much you hate facts, yet somehow you tout your higher intelligence. As long as YOU know how smart you are, the rest of the world doesn’t matter…
YOU know how right your beliefs are, FACTS don’t matter. You’ve even equated facts with clutter. That’s all we need to know about how you base your decisions. That speaks volumes about your level of intellectual curiosity. Reminds me of Stephen Colbert at the white house press party talking about “reality” having a liberal bias and George Bush being against “brainiacs on the nerd patrol”.
Laugh it up. You’re the only one laughing. Like the town fool. You’ve never proven a point, just did your best to act the part of the wisened scholar.
P.S. Being “informed” doesn’t mean writing the same opinion you have about a hypothetical situation in the midst of some smug snobbery about how much more intelligent you are than everyone else.
No, you’re wrong… and then you’re right, but just you, not everyone else, I’m not that arrogant.
“what are you implying, that I’m scared to debate with someone that is less informed than me, I’m ok with talking to you… I don’t feel the need to clutter up the pages here with “facts” I could”
You’re not arrogant? Are you kidding? All you’ve done is say how amusing everyone is to you. Are you seriously clueless? Do you really think you aren’t arrogant? Maybe you’re not in real life, I don’t know you… but read your posts.
Yes, that is what I’m implying… saw a Tshirt the other day “Annoy a Liberal: Use facts and logic”… thinking you would be well served by watching some Cable News that gives “fair and balanced” reporting. Definitely think that would help you. I keep going back to my original point of my original post; and you come back to calling me names… it’s ok, you’re a liberal, it’s what you do… your supposed to tell me what to do and how to think… just doesn’t work on me.. but thanks for trying. Have a great day.
I’m not really a “liberal” but it seems to me like you do a good job of annoying people with absolutely no facts or logic!
LOL, it is true that the people I seem to annoy have no facts or logic… I don’t feel the need to lay a case for my opinion that if Sarah Palin was a liberal that she would have been supported by women’s groups… It’s an opinion… I got attacked, some people used names to try to bring me down… ehhh, elitist liberals… not every one, just a few that think they have to tell me and the rest of the country how to think… so yeah, they blathered on, but no logic was used at all by them.
You never got attacked for your opinion. That’s just an outright lie.
You got attacked because we took you seriously in answering your questions, and you attacked us for it. You lashed out like a child, and got treated accordingly. You have done nothing but try and butt heads and are now acting like you’re the Hurricane or some heroic martyr “some people used names to try and bring me down”.
I can’t bring you down. You were never “up”.
Did you just answer your own quote? And then quote a t-shirt? And not only that, quote a t-shirt inconsistent with the point you’ve already made about how facts are just clutter and you’ve got no use for them? And THEN suggest I watch Fox News?
I don’t have to call you names. You do a better job of making yourself look like a complete tool than I ever could. And this isn’t blanket criticism of “conservatives” as you have done with “liberals”. I am talking about you. YOU are arrogant. YOU have stated you don’t like facts. YOU are delusional and paranoid that I’m trying to somehow tell you how to think and what to do and so is maybe Whoopi Goldberg of the View, which is the only mainstream media you can name. But I suppose that makes sense since you consider Fox News to be fair and balanced. And you sound like a paranoid schizophrenic talking about how the Clintons are murderers.
You’re original point (I think- I also know you LOVE Condoleeza Rice) is that all women should support Sarah Palin because she is also a woman. I explained why I will never support Sarah Palin as a political figure because she is incompetent as a politician. I explained why it is insulting that someone would suggest all women should have supported her because we share anatomy and cannot think independent of our sex organs. Then you countered with a hypothetical situation about Condoleeza Rice being treated differently (by the View, no less) as a liberal. I explained why women such as myself don’t support Condoleeza Rice. You countered with the fact that… Clinton is a murderer???
I never started by calling you names. In fact, I think you snobbishly complimented me on that fact even though I am a “liberal”. You’ve turned all your posts into insulting, paranoid, incoherent dribble and it bothered me so I turned things on you. THEN I tried to give you the benefit of the doubt by saying perhaps in real life you weren’t arrogant. In fact, I felt guilty for being so rough on you. I’m glad that at least I don’t feel bad at all anymore. Sifting through the babbling and muck and missplaced ellipses that make up your comments, I can at least leave with that. And honestly, I don’t care what kind of day you have. I’m not as interested in passive agressive defense mechanisms.
OK, too long, don’t care about your opinions enough to bother… if you can’t realize I’m having fun at your expense, then I can’t help you…just keep calling me names, it’s what you seem to be good at… get some education, get some self humor, maybe relax a little and again… if Sarah Palin was a liberal, she would have been treated much differently than she has been. I”m sorry, I keep going back to the original point … I’ll wait for your next obnoxiously long diatribe which will bore me to tears after 2 lines, I’ll go to your insulting ending and reply again to my original point and your lack of sense or clarity. Have a nice day.
I’m sorry I’m not funny enough for you. Maybe I’ll start quoting t-shirts like you. Comic f-ing gold. Tina Fey is a hack to you, and you are quoting t-shirts and making lame attempts at Maury Povich jokes you must have read out of a Jeff Foxworthy book in in 1995.
You’ve made your point. You’ve not supported it. I’ve responded to that point over and over again. It’s hypothetical and holds no water. But you still repeat yourself as if you are saying something that is common knowledge, except most folks don’t agree with you. That is why you’re delusional. You speak about me trying to conduct your thoughts. That’s why you’re paranoid. And you’re upset about the View’s treatment of Sarah Palin, which is why you’re just an idiot.
When I educate myself by fact checking, you insult me and call me longwinded. You have no cinsistency because you are not sure what point you’re even trying to make. What’s clear is you feel like a trapped rat because you are not intellectually equipped to speak with anyone other than yelling and hooting in agreement at the idiots like Glenn Beck crying on Fox news.
And “have a nice day”? You sound like Miley Cyrus trying to be sassy. And if you aren’t a 16 year old girl, you’re just some loser incapable of original thought. You’ve said it at least twice, because you can’t think of another way to end you’re stupid comments. It’s like your go-to snark. Like I can imagine you smiling to yourself going, “This oughtta show her! It’s like I’m saying something nice but I don’t actually mean it! I’m experimenting with sarcasm and it feels cool!”
Sorry if this is too long for ya!
I knew you would get your name calling in… found it buried towards the end… didn’t read the whole thing, you’re not that interesting… just had to scan to find it… good job… The “have a nice day” is trying to get you to stop, shut up, it’s over… you’re boring, you’re wrong and I’m done with you. Take care.
Of course I’m going to insult you! I think I’ve made it abundantly clear I don’t like you or any of the things you’ve said. You’ve proven yourself to be a delusional idiot with no intellectual curiosity, and that just rubs me the wrong way today. So, yes, I’m glad you “knew” I would get my namecalling in. Congratulations on picking up the glaring freaking fact that I’m always going to respond to you pointing out what a complete fool you are, because you will never provide anything of substance to respond to. Substance is just clutter, right?
Why don’t you ask me to stop next time? I told you passive aggressive crap doesn’t work on me. It’s pathetic.
And I guess you are capable of original thought. You changed “Have a nice day” to “Take care”. Or maybe “Take care” means “I’m done with this argument because I have no way nor intention of proving my original point and I’ve been successfully called out on it.”?
And please spare me the “I didn’t even read your whole post so there’s no way you can affect me” nonsense. That’s like a child covering their ears in an argument. Just add that to the list of all your other brilliant retorts and rebuttals.
See, you are still amusing; if nothing else, you are amusing. And yes, you noticed, I am brilliant. I truly am getting tired of you… I don’t feel I can keep this up; you just don’t understand that some people think differently than you and you can’t accept it… it’s ok, walk towards the light.
First I’m not funny, now I’m very funny. Of course, I’ll take your confused compliment with a grain of salt since we know your sense of comedy is stolen from an online t-shirt company circa 1998. Walk towards the light? Seriously? Tell me again how bad Tina Fey is, but make sure you end your comment with a real zinger like that!
You probably can’t keep this up. You probably can’t keep up with most folks…
And I have no problem with people who think differently than I do. I have problems with smarmy a-holes thinking themselves better than everyone else and make sweeping statements they clearly know nothing about. Had you brought up anything of value, ever, we could have had a real discussion on our hands. I mentioned before- my criticism at this point is of YOU, not Conservatives, not anyone who may have different views. I think YOU are exceptionally defensive, delusional, childish, anti-education, lacking in intellectual curiosity, ignorant, and incapable of original thought.
Smarmy A-hole? another nice name for the elitist, “I’m better than you” liberal… Nice, precious. Come on, tell me how much better you are than me some more… LOL…keep up you inane prattle. I made it to the “smarmy” on that one…
Oh, and precious, I won’t be available tomorrow, I have a golf outing I got roped into; so you have all day Friday to be witty and intellectual. Go get ’em.
Once again, Gollum, you have resorted to blanket insults about “liberals”. Although you have stolen words from me, as we know you are incapable of original thought. And once again, you’ve resorted to a 5 year old’s tactics of plugging your ears and saying “I can’t hear you!”
And I never made claims about my intellect. You clearly must thinkly highly of me, though, because you are jumping to your defensive delusions.
In the end, everyone reading this can see how you’ve never been able to prove a point. You’ve never been able to do anything but play act what you imagine a smart person to sound like, calling people “amusing” and all.
And “golfing”? I’m pretty sure that’s another way you are trying to back out of this because it’s hard to admit it when you’ve been a fool. And it must be trying to come up with so many snarky zinger equivalents to “have a nice day”. So take a breather, recoup, watch some Glenn Beck and console him through the tv. I’ll be here when you get back.
It’s occurred to me that Beet Czar isn’t really a conservative at all, but a liberal who’s trying to make conservatives look stupid.
Think about it.
She expects women to support a female candidate just because she’s female, yet she doesn’t support Hillary.
She claims to be in possession of “facts” that support her conservative viewpoint, but she refuses to share them.
She refuses to read any facts that anybody else lays out, and refers to all such facts as “blah, blah, blah.”
She says that Obama was elected because he’s black, even though Jesse Jackson has run for president without ever being elected.
She calls us horrible for “name calling” yet has a super smarmy, insulting attitude.
And last, but not least, has claimed the George Bush’s big mistake was “caving in to liberal pressure with Iraq.”
I think I’m on to something…
You are not intelligent or your responses are not captivating enough for me to want to bother to read the whole post. I stated many times, as I have to keep reminding you ADD types that, while yes, I can just go fact for fact with you, I don’t need or want to waste my time… the position I held, and still do is that I feel Sarah Palin should have had some support from women’s groups and that if she was a liberal she would have been treated differently… Damn, I had to say that at least half a dozen times… maybe it will sink in eventually; but I doubt it, as you feel empowered to see your words in print and try to tell the rest of us how to think and how smart you are… go figure, liberals feeling superior…hmmmm…
Your school yard argument style is extremely immature. How old are you? I’m guessing about 15 at most. Your grasp on logic is tenuous at best. Here’s something to get you started: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logic
Here’s how a real argument works. Someone presents an idea, backing it up with solid reasoning and facts if available. Dissenters present counter arguments, using the tenets of logic and bringing relevant facts to the table. Saying that you don’t feel like arguing and presenting yourself as somehow superior for no apparent reason is grade 5 bullshit and is common among conservatives. Even ones who have a firm grasp on logic will abandon it when it suits their ideology.
Saying that people should support Sarah Palin because she is a woman is the equivalent of saying I should support a male candidate simply because he is a man. Then you go ahead and perform a complete logic fail by saying you won’t support Hilary because you don’t like her.
Oh goodie! Another liberal here to tell me what to think and how to do that also…very gracious of you; I understand my wit, humor, intelligence and the ability to blend all three with pop culture references and a bit of sarcasm might confuse you… if so, please move on, you’ll get over it… just go away… please… you will never be able to top me… it’s ok though, it’s the cross I have to bear.
Now we can all sit back and watch poor little Beet Czar’s head explode.
I think I’ll give it a rest, though, because you are probably right, Ryan. I think Beet Czar is around 15 and I’m starting to feel a little guilty.
This can’t be you… I was actually able to read your post the whole way through without falling asleep… loving the blissful ignorance of the liberal mind. I do feel sorry for you. Such a band of fools. As I mentioned before, I”m done with you, you are just not compelling enough…