Thoughts?
I’m totally a shit-show over here. Crying my damn eyes out. I only watch like four shows on television, ever, and of course I pick the one that’s going to leave me a sobbing wreck after a perfectly good day. Fox has a stupid website up about it (it’s here, and spoiler alert), but it’s, as mentioned, stupid, and I’d rather hear your thoughts here.
Update: If you missed the show and wanna see what happened, full ep is available here. (Probably US-only, though.)
Beyond angry. I cannot believe they would ****SPOILER*** kill off such a great character. He was literally my favorite among the newbies. Just doesn’t make sense to me, doesn’t fit in with his character or persona….fucking Fox just trying to get some ratings.
Kal Penn asked to be released from the show. This wasn’t about Fox trying to get ratings.
The memorial website is asking to be trolled, though.
omg i cannot believe that just happened. and they didn’t even explain why he did that! UGH
In terms of television tactics, I think it’s interesting and innovative to spontaneously kill a main character; and at the very least it will generate a significant amount of press, and improve future ratings. Although killing a main character is nothing new, doing so without any warning or plot build-up is novel. Also, I felt that this episode treated the issue of suicide respectfully and seriously; and the bulletin at the end which advertised a crisis hotline was tasteful.
The website, however, cheapens both the artistic quality of the episode, and the mystery surrounding the character and his death. It looks hastily put together, and there is a factual error. During the episode, when Foreman called 911, he mentioned that a 28 year old male had been shot, but the website lists Kutner’s age as 33.
Wow, really good catch on the factual error.
Glad you caught it! I was dying over here, and everyone’s like, “Shhhhh I have it on dvr, don’t tell me.” AHHHHHHH!
What was the name of the song at the end? They seem to consistently pick some great, appropriate music from relative unknowns (Bon Iver, song: re: Stacks, from end of last season, etc.), and I end up DL’ing the whole album.
Cheers,
Derek
it was Lose You by Pete Yorn, amazing song and amazing artist, perfect for the scene
You know another show that did the whole awesome and unknown song thing?
well, for the first few seasons anyway…
Buffy the Vampire slayer.
Just saying, since it randomly popped into my head. completely irrelevant.
Damn! I caught none of that through the outrage, tears and arm-flailing.
like omg! i so didnt see that coming. now my 2 favourites are gonna b gone from the series in a while. i mean the first time i saw 13 i jus fell in love with her( who wouldnt??) and i was heart broken when i found out she was goin to die from huntington’s disease and i grew to love kutner… i still hate and think taub should pay for taking the credit for kutner’s work and how he behaved when he found out he died… like pay some respect dude even if u werent friends u still worked together and he saved your ass countless times! R.I.P kutner u were a kind gentle intelligent person…ur soul lives on
Uhm.. “ur soul lives on”? It was a TV character, retard.. geez, some people *sigh*
just very short but huge THANK YOU for the link, it works nicely outside of US!
The link works in Korea!
Thanks Beet!
Man, that sucked!!!!! Howevah……..as for the writing and as a plot device I think it was pretty brilliant. That is how shit like that goes down in the real world. Sometimes you see it coming and or feel like you should have seen it coming and sometimes it comes out of fucking nowhere. Sad.
Completely agreed.
The way they killed him off, without him even appearing live in the episode I thought that maybe Kal Penn had died unexpectedly during the filming of the season and that I had somehow missed hearing about it. I had to go check imdb to see if he was still alive or not.
Oh good, I’m not the only one that did that! haha
SO glad he’s not really dead!!
Wow, I was so pissed when they found him dead. I mean like super mad. I loved his character. Why him? Taub, yeah…but he was a super great actor for that role. Damn!
omg i saw this episode last nite (thank u TiVo)
and I kept pressing rewind cuz I could not believe that out of NO WHERE they killed him off. Just like that.
wow
i had read some internet scuttle in recent weeks that this might be what happens, so i wasn’t that shocked.
i actually thought this was a pretty weak episode by House standards. i flipped over to Antiques Roadshow a couple of times…
I guess he is going to Washington…http://blogs.usatoday.com/entertainment/2009/04/whats-behind-shocking-house-storyline.html#more
i read that too, i’m kind of excited about it… kal penn’s political involvement is one of the reasons i love him so much. i hope he does well!
I still can’t believe they killed off his character.I thought Foreman’s reaction was strange compared to the rest.I wonder if they will now have someone else to fill his spot or leave it empty till next season?God, I love that show
Is it just me, or is it pretty obvious that Taub killed him? I mean, he was probably still pissed that Kutner had to cover for him and was always getting stuff right and making him look like a dumb ass. I don’t know. With his reactions to the ‘suicide’ I think that is the way its going to go. Its also obvious that they want to get Cameron back on the show more so I think with Kutner gone and Taub (presumably) locked up, Cameron and Chase will make a comeback. That way there are two girls and two guys on the team. Also, I could totally be off base. =)
I was thinking too that Taub killed him. Sometimes people who have survived a suicide attempt are less than sympathetic to people who succeed, though, just because the suicide attempt was yet another thing they failed at and someone, once again, managed to outdo them.
I don’t know. Honestly, if you’re just going off of his reaction, that’s not really fair. My brother-in-law committed suicide in July. It was completely out of no where for a young man who by all appearances was going places in his life. There were absolutely no warning signs that anyone could see, even looking back over the time before he died. He just went out one morning, bought a gun, came home, wrote a note, and then shot himself. Watching the episode, I saw how each character faced the grief and it was a mirror of how different family members grieved my BIL. My husband, who lost his brother, reacted very much like Taub. When asked if he was curious why Kutner did it, Taub said, “Only why a man who embraces the rational is suddenly pursuing the irrational.” My husband said similar things.
My father-in-law was like House, searching for a reason or an answer in every detail of my BIL’s life. My husband was like Taub. A reason wasn’t going to change anything. He was angry with his brother and didn’t give a shit why he did it. We had to travel to D.C. for the funeral. The family would sit around the house grieving. All my husband wanted to do was get out of the house and do as many “normal” things as we could given that we were out of our element. We went to a Washington Nationals baseball game. We did all sorts of touristy D.C. things, even though we’d done them before on visits with his family. I’m sure people thought his reaction was weird or lacked compassion. But it was what he needed to grieve and cope. New Year’s Eve, 6 months after his brother’s suicide, my husband really cried and was emotional about it. And then, it was just he and I at home alone looking over some memories and pictures.
Different people react to suicide in different ways. In that way, I think the writing on this episode of House was extremely well done. I hope they don’t turn it into a Taub murdered Kutner storyline. That would be extremely disappointing.
OMG, I had an extreme epiphany watching last nights episode. When I was 13, my best friend who was older than me and who I looked up to (we rode horses at the same barn with the same trainer and i always looked up to her and her ability with horses and she helped me become the rider I am today) died from leukemia. I had blocked out those memories of her death, visiting her in the hospital, and all the memories we made together. I guess my brain blocked those memories from me so i didnt have to experience that pain and sadness. But whenever I did look back on her death, I never felt anything, I never was able to cry about it (I cried like a baby when it first happend but just the yers following i couldnt). Last nights episode unlocked those memories for me. I was able to go back in my mind and remember going to coldstone and getting her favorite icecream, cakebatter, and rushing all the way to the hospital to give it to her. I would hold the icecream infront of the air conditioning on full blast so it wouldnt melt by the time I reached her. I remembered the first time I saw her with no hair. I was scared. I remember when my mom told me she wasnt going to wake up from her medically induced coma because the cancer spread to her brain. I remember signing my name in the book at her funeral. I was able to feel that pain. I felt something, and it was good. of course I was deeply sadend, but I had unlocked the pain and the misery I didnt allow myself to feel for 8 years. Thank you House, for helping me cope with the loss of my dear friend. I know its pretty pitiful to say that a television show helped my life, but it did. I am now going to seek counseling and maybe hypnotherapy to discover all the memories I have been blocking. Thank you Evil Beet, and god bless.
Why they gotta always kill of the Indian guy???
Bastards!
Man… I gotta stop drinking in the morning
Maybe the suicide plot line was intended to be a metaphor for what the producers thought Kal Penn was doing with his career.
i’m telling you, it’s taub who killed my beloved kutner :] when in the beginning house asked where kutner was, taub told him sth about kutner’s dog, that he had to stay home with it etc. And kutner didn’t have a dog… Besides i don’t like taub any more. he had changed.
I only watched the beginning so far but,
Hey, it’s Meat Loaf!
Damnit! I liked Kutner. And now I have to be bored with Taub and the boring relationship between 13 and Foreman. Sheesh!
But it was a good episode, I didn’t see it coming at all.
Ok. So I was kind of impressed with the suicide thing for the first five minutes but then I got bored. I understand the need to be respectful, maybe someone close to the cast/crew at some point committed suicide and this was their way of paying tribute, or maybe it was just a senseless tear-jerker, but it wasn’t a very GOOD tearjerker.
I sort of got excited when House came up with the murder idea because that’s what I thought myself, but the way the other characters blew it off I can see the writers dropping the case. Which sucks. A murder would be a good, juicy way to end the season, especially since House is clearly based on Sherlock Holmes and it would be cool to see him solve a real murder.
I don’t get it this Kal Penn worked himself into houses line up and became one of the team to kill him off like this is unthinkable its almost like this show needed something other then meat loaf to fill the bread.
I personally would had much preferred them ( the House writers) make a show based on sudden suicides events other then make this an opportunity to kill off one of the characters that I really liked to show that sometimes there are no signs to ” sudden suicide’s ” I an saddened by their decisions to do it this way…
the reason they killed kutner off is because kal penn wanted to work for the white house. they cant very well tell him no you cant quit. i think it would have maybe been a better episode if they did another hostage situation and had the person who took them hostage be the reason for kutners death. like, hes sick like the last guy and kutner gives him a wrong diagnoses and so he kills him.
I like the Kutner character a lot, I think he was a great foil for House and I hope they find someone who can fill Kal Penn’s shoes in that aspect.
Good Luck to Kal in Washington.